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good morning of things crowd it is Jeff and Ron here again for another sense of things update for
the week welcome to the week after the uh Easter holiday and the week before Eclipse USA Ron how
you doing buddy good morning yeah I’m waiting for all the religious zealots that believe the
eclipse is part of Armageddon and the end of the world wasn’t it a few years ago with the
Mayan Eclipse thing or the Mayan thing that oh it was gonna the world was ending Maybe not maybe we
misread that I don’t know you get another Heaven’s Gate situation with the eclipse and other things
so what are you gonna do you like to start let’s let’s start with that very thing let’s take a look
at our Eclipse update here so for those of you that have been in a cloud or in a cave here’s we
both upcoming Eclipse so this is what the swath of it is so Ron’s way over here so he’s not getting
much Eclipse uh the middle of the state sir there right there okay there we go so Ron’s right here
I’m right here so you would think I’m going to get a great Eclipse shot the entire state of
Texas is going to be covered in clouds and most of these folks are going to be covered in clouds
and rainstorms and everything else so it’s not going to be the Great American Eclipse that most
of us are going to see from what I understand it’s really just up here around Cleveland Watertown New
York Burlington Vermont that they’re actually going to have clear skies and they’ll actually
get to see the eclipse um I believe that this will be the last one for another 30 years or something
like that crazy yeah I remember one about eight years ago yeah part partial yeah I remember one
when I was a kid I think when I was in Maybe Junior High School maybe Elementary School I
remember it happening but yeah I really don’t pay much attention to it but and make sure you
get the right glasses apparently there’s a lot of counterfeit fake glasses for Eclipse they said
that you could go blind know the stupid Eclipse yeah you can’t use regular sunglasses you got to
use ones that basically a blind person would need to wear that’s from what I heard and understand
but who knows I was able to get mine through I mean they’re everywhere around town but I was able
to get mine through Walmart when I bought a TV the other day so I have the Walmart one so hopefully
they’re not some cheap Chinese thing that’s going to cause me to go blind oh I’m sure they are but
that’s okay um just quickly while we’ve got while I’ve got my screen shared once again really quiet
week in the markets really quiet week when it comes to our our U what’s going on in the the
economic calendar and everything else um but we did have a couple of interesting reports this week
first of which was the ISM Manufacturing Index briefing.com had a consensus of 48.5 it’s really
been below so the the 50 number is expansionary meaning that we’re an expansion for that index uh
below that is considered we’re in a contractionary phase so the ISM Manufacturing Index which we’ve
talked about multiple times has been below 50 for somewhere going on I think two and a half
years September 2022 and this was the first time we’ve seen it go into expansionary phase
so that’s an interesting thing and then of course we had the ism non by the way very quickly yeah
manufacturer is the one sector that has been leading most of the other sectors in layoffs
which is intriguing to me that it’s moving in the right direction all of a sudden manufacturing is
one of the most labor intensive industry so how can you be expanding if you’re laying off people
once again it’s another conundrum fortunately this is a private organization and not a governmental
organization so I believe their numbers a little bit more than some of the stuff that comes out
of our governmental agencies I think they’re a little they fudge a little bit more or their
data is terrible um so the non-manufacturing so think of this is the service industry businesses
it still came in at 51.4 but it’s been on a contractionary direction for several months
now and the services sector is our largest sector in the country so this is something that we do
need to start paying some attention to both of them are in expansionary mode which is I it’s
good for the world it’s good for everything if we start to see the service sector side continue
on this trend it may easily blow through 50 and go into the contractionary and if AI takes full
effect in about 10 years that’ll be down to 40 yeah it really will it’s productivity will go
through the roof and you’re just going to have nonp payrolls hey we’ll get down that four hour
work week yeah or you’re going to have California they just put into place this week that 20 hour or
$20 an hour for yeah $15 Big Mac good luck yeah exactly it’s probably going to be a $20 Big Mac
fors all over they’re saying lower income people can’t afford McDonald’s anymore yeah where are
they gonna go it’s okay they Taco Bell yeah go to Taco Bell and that’s gonna be well oh yeah
doesn’t matter all fast food yeah that’s going to be a that’s a franchise too so they’re going to
have to pay and it’s funny because the argument I heard was well but this is only these you know
big franchises and all that and I was like you do realize that those big franchises are owned
by little businesses little small businesses not all of them have to pay that yes but if somebody’s
paying $20 and I’m paying 15 I’m not going to be able to find employees to work at my place it’s
a cycle right if I pay you more that means my cost goes up which means I have to charge more
which means the consumer pays more and then we have more inflation yep so then what do you then
what do you got to do then I got to pay you more so you can afford the goods so the consumer pays
more and going around Chase Chase Chase and we went from what $8 an hour or 750 an hour a few
years ago there’s an old expression this I think probably brought it up once before yeah sometimes
you’re a ditch digger yeah if that’s what you’re meant to do there’s a price for that right not you
can’t be a CEO of Disney right that’s not your calling you’re a ditch digger there’s a price
for that why are we as consumers responsible for paying you two to three times the amount because
we feel bad that’s all you’re capable of doing and being paid to afford in life the other real yeah
the other reality of it though is okay many times those jobs especially fast food jobs were held by
kids that were living at home time they didn’t need $20 an hour it’s not like they’re paying
for mortgages and all that type of stuff there’s G you got to start someplace and what you’re doing
now is you’re basically ensuring that people have no career path at all they have no incentive to go
anywhere else because they’re making 20 bucks an hour no but up in the managerial roles and
that is a career role and I get that but we’re not talking about pay for managers yeah we’re
talking about somebody taking your order yes we’re talking about somebody fries for lack of a better
flipping burgers and making fries I get that but it’s look it’s not going to get better you can’t
go the other way once the toothpaste comes out of the tube you can’t put it back in nope and you
can’t California by far there’s a reason why there’s an exodus from California yeah right
it’s beautiful of a state at is as it is and I was born there can’t live there no no the fast food C
California audience what can I tell yeah the fast the Cal or the fast food path I I always think of
the movie Coming to America right now I’m washing lettuce pretty soon I’ll be on Fri then I become
a manager or an assistant manager and that’s where the big bucks start rolling ends Louie
Anderson was so great back then the greatest ever he is all right was that all you wanted to cover
yeah I don’t really have anything else it’s all right pretty quiet week yeah so I have some fun
stuff so let’s take a little bit of a right turn wow from our bad product design and let’s go back
to last October when we were having fun with some favorite mug shots so yes folks these are
the people that live among us and uh on his right cheek is I think that’s the monster beverage logo
and left cheek I don’t know if that’s the Nike logo it has a Nike ask look I mean he you know he
could probably be sued for copyright infringements he’s probably a trademark infringements he has it
but it’s you know it’s a hook or a swoosh here’s the other thing too I’ve never had a tattoo I’ll
never get a tattoo I think there are some tattoos on people that are very nice but I got to ask that
has got to hurt to get a tattoo across the atams Apple yeah I have one on my ankle and literally
going around so it encircles my ankle it’s a Hawaiian tattoo and I will tell you after having
many pieces of pain in my life there was nothing more painful than them tapping across tapping a
whale skin bone or whale bone into my leg right at the the Achilles heel it felt literally like
somebody was sawing my foot in half so oh God you know there was a rumor going around your wife
mentioned that you were gonna get your company logo as a [ __ ] stamp is that true yeah I yeah
that’s the next one we’ll do the little Freedom Day on the back I’m liking that nice all right
let’s keep it going or just maybe right across the forehead whoa just to let you know all these mug
shots had a name and the county they were arrested in I took that out all right this lady happens to
have been arrested in my County okay so I’m not everybody’s going to wear that orange jumpsuit
but obviously it was a long night for the misses apparently either she was riding in the side car
without a helmet or or fell off a cliff not sure I don’t know I always believe for ladies makeup
is to enhance not to improve yes she could use a little help of now I gotta tell you I don’t
know whether these are fake contacts or what but creep scary that that is the creepiest thing I’ve
ever seen some of the ones we had in October we’ll have to do that again for next Halloween yeah and
for the last one I don’t know if I want this guy showing up at the PTA meeting at the elementary
school read his forehead my monsters are real okay alrighty then what what are you saying here or
maybe it’s enough said so he’s he is arrested for alleged domestic assault and battery by
strangulation and domestic assault and battery wow and he’s got the two little teardrops there which
typically signify that you’ve killed two people at that point point oh is that what that means yep I
thought it means I’m crying for you or something like but he has such kind and genuine eyes yeah
what is the other does it say rebel across his I think so yeah eye and then he’s got the weird then
in his left ear it’s a spider going towards the ear that has a tattoo of a web yeah that’s just
disgusting and weird okay yeah and then he’s got some kind of weird hopefully none of these people
track us down but what can I tell you hey this all out on the internet what can I tell you I think
I think most of these folks are probably still in jail yeah yeah this is in the last month okay all
right so we we brought this up a couple of times last year and these are if you take a look at it
year by year this is how sectors have performed by year and you can see there cyclicality to it
there’s seasonality to it and you always want to look at the the underperforming SE the top
the bottom four underperforming sectors because usually they rise to the top in the next year yeah
healthc care this year came out of the gate flying in the first four to six weeks and then really
Peter down in the last week a lot of the main healthc care companies have really pulled back
and I thought it was interesting because I believe that this year healthc care is is going to be one
of the top winners top two top three sectors and it’s pulled back now it’s to a point where I think
it’s near a off level but here’s the interesting thing this is just the Health Care seasonality by
month over a 20year range and if you take a look at it that you know usually the June July time
frame is the buy and the reason why I research this is because I heard a market strategist
last week say hold off on the health care sector until the summertime and I did a little dog ear
what yeah and I’m like that’s interesting why June July I don’t know but here it is a 20-year chart
showing that June July is typically a good time frame to get into healthc care so this keep my
eye on to because I have a group of clients that I said that we’re gonna get into the health care we
want to wait for a good price to get in obviously we know what’s happened in the first three months
but we’re going to keep an eye on this going into June I don’t know I wanted to give your get your
thoughts before I I mean it’s interesting to me that there this huge dip off in March like from
February to March I don’t understand March is typically a down Monon in the market period
yeah but I mean it just why healthc care would be like pulled back so much at that point and
then why it just steadily Rises throughout the rest of the year makes no sense to me but it you
know these are the type of things that you just pay attention to and it it can give you that I
mean you could even argue the point you could wait until you know the Late July or even into August
and just let it do its thing or whatever if it you know it you don’t have that other drop down in the
fall there in October from September yeah and I think it’s interesting because October time frame
in early November is typically open enrollment in large Enterprise uh organizations and then you can
see what happens right after open enrollment it goes parabolic yeah I honestly I will say
I’ve never paid this close attention to it but every CH tells a story as we say yeah and this
is telling an interesting story very intriguing I I’ll keep an eye on that this year because it’s
intriguing to me and we’ll revisit it why not so anyway I got two other slides here on seasonality
across indices and in different sectors so you can see here even with Healthcare it’s showing
a very similar time frame right April take kind of takes off through December but I I think that it’s
interesting this is obvious utilities obviously do well during the summer months right so this is
an easy one even energy okay I could see a spike during the summer yeah that travel month yeah why
it’s not good at any other year we need gas in our cars and I I I you know understand this January
through May okay so typically there’s not a whole lot of travel during that time period you may
have a little bit of spring Breaky time in there but why it would wouldn’t be most of the summer
is the strange thing for me yeah and because it Rhymes you hear this every year even though it’s
got only like a 30 35% chance of following through which is sell and May and go away right and people
said if you’ve done that it only worked like 30 to 35% of the time but I think it’s interesting
if you take a look at how many sectors come out of the gate very well through May yep I I think
that’s interesting kind of industrial it shifts to like the super defensive Industries during
the summer so you got Consumer Staples Health Care utilities basically all summer where you get your
performance there and even energy which you and I both agree I I don’t invest in energy because
it’s just manipulated at that point when it’s interesting with utilities is really just that
very small little swath of window that they do decent and the rest here interesting right
Consumer Staples these are things that we need every day yeah right food and materials whatever
it is why April through November is that because those are the warmer months through the majority
of the year and warmer months in the South and the southeast and West that we’re just consuming
more I don’t know I don’t know either look data doesn’t lie the barbecue index people yeah people
eat a lot more barbecue and a lot of more barbecue beans and they need Consumer Staples during that
time period I I don’t know and they’re eating a lot more barbecue and hot dogs and stuff like
that and they need more Health Care during that time period too but it is showing too if you’re
heavy in these four SE these five sectors yeah Financial which I’m not I’m not a I’m not a big
proponent of or investing those top four it should be interesting to see what happens in
the next six weeks is are we going to continue to rise or are we going to step in pothole with some
of it and you know just looking at now breaking it down into specific Industries okay I got to
tell you the biggest one to me that I don’t get or understand Airlines and Autos why does Autos
have a a three and a half month time frame when they do very well yeah and Airlines okay January
through May 4th okay people are getting out of the winter spring break I get that nobody goes Nobody
travels as much summer time and then here’s interesting during the holidays Thanksgiving
Christmas and New Year’s people are traveling why do all of a sudden after December 5th that
sector doesn’t do well so there are some well anomalies here that I’m not connecting the dots
on so here’s my thought though is this how the stocks are doing at those time periods these are
the yeah the sector Industries as far as I think when they’re peing right because I think when
we’re not seeing the color time frame that’s when they’re eing yeah when they’re ebing the Market’s
always a predictor so and ebing is going up my bad yeah I could see that you know being a predictor
with Airlines okay six months out January to May we’re you know the Market’s kind of betting that
we’re gonna have a great travel period and then you know for the summer and then October through
December is that last quarter of absorption of okay how good was that quarter and that may be
where the stocks go up so that I mean I guess I get where this is going now where it’s predicting
all that stuff ahead of time um it’s interesting though like real estate that is really the big
season for Real Estate is that July to September everybody’s moving prior to that telecom I don’t
really get Telecom anyhow this is interesting retail right everybody is you know the holidays
are the LA the last six weeks of the year right that’s when they’re making their money why does
by November 29th right after Thanksgiving hey it cuts off people are still buying up to Christmas
Eve yeah right but here’s the interesting thing everything Peters off they get rid of all their
seasonal workers right after Christmas beginning of January why from January 21st to April 12th
is that cyclically seasonally good with retail because typically that’s when all the sales are
happening to blow out all the inventory that didn’t sell during the holiday season yeah
like I said I think it’s more of a it’s more of a predictor so that October to November they’re
predicting okay this is where we see we think it’s going to be a good year so the stocks are
going up then December there’s always those kind of ancillary reports that come out so the stocks
are all over the fence because I I invest in some real estate in some retail and I’ve seen that from
the stocks during that time period where you have a company that has been doing exceptionally well
and every report that it has it’s you know really well but it can be all over the fence in December
and then January through all of a sudden it’s oh this is the reality now they had an amazing
Christmas time or had an amazing whatever late December Peri or late November period yeah so I
think this is interesting and don’t get me wrong we’re not I’m not a Trader right my goal when I
get a client into an investment I got a three to five year horizon line unless there’s something
there but you don’t want to be less than a year because of capital gains and non- tax advantage
accounts but this is something very interesting that if through seasonality and cyclicality there
are certain times of the year where Investments Mak sense something to keep an eye on and probably
should revisit it at some point during this year to see how much some of this holds true
yeah exactly and is it just a weird anomaly for the last 10 years or something like that has it
been longer I’m a rules-based Trader so I have very specific rules that we follow and we’re
gonna we’re going to follow what’s going on in the markets but yeah I’ve never really paid attention
that much to some of that this intricate data like that that once again it’s another little
tweak in the if you’re a portfolio manager and specifically a market strategist a lot of that
stuff makes sense I get that I get that and you’re trying at the end of the day fundamentals identify
when good opportunities technicals tell you when you should get in yeah right and you amalgamate
the two together and then certainly throwing seasonality in there combines the two together
yeah it’s interesting like said I’ve not really I’ve never paid attention to that stuff I’ve
watched the higher level version of that that you showed at the beginning that that chart that
we’ve all used for years I’ve used that higher end version of it just see where things are at
but I’ve never gotten into the granular detail like you did so thanks for that it’s very yeah
yeah yeah like I said every week we got to do something a little different but it’s good to
revisit some of this stuff too yeah awesome it’s a good week I think tomorrow April 5th is going
to be interesting because unemployment number got we got non-farm payrolls average earnings
unemployment rate work average work week Consumer Credit so it’s going to be a lot of information
and a lot of those are are high trading impact for the market so corporate earnings start end
of next week of course God that seems like we just got done with earning season and we’re right back
to it we did it’s a never ending process folks thanks for joining us as always make sure that