Join Jeff and Ron as they dive into intriguing economic updates and business facts. Discover ten surprising business stories, including Whole Foods’ CEO cutting his salary for a relief fund, the original McDonald’s menu featuring hot dogs, and Volvo’s unique car delivery experience. Learn about the curious world of air pollution entrepreneurship and Google’s use of goats for lawn care. In addition to these trivia, the episode explores recent market movements and analysis, touching upon treasury yield curves and unexpected Wall Street forecasts. Stay tuned for insights into the employment market and ongoing strikes affecting industries worldwide. 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 00:58 Casual Chat and Seasonal Changes 02:29 Fun Business Facts 08:33 Economic Indicators and Market Analysis 10:08 Wall Street Price Targets 13:12 Employment and Market Trends 15:23 Upcoming Topics and Conclusion
TRANSCRIPT
Introduction and Episode Overview
good morning sense of things this is Jeff and Ron here again and we are kicking off
another week of lots of craziness in the economy uh lots of interesting facts and
Ron’s gonna give us a rundown today on first off some 10 of 27 so you’re gonna have to get
the whole list of them you’re gonna have to listen to our next episode but 10 of
27 dated interesting business facts he’s going to give us a rundown on some of the Wall Street
price targets that are being updated to you to believe them and then some other facts here at
the end focusing on just markets in general so let’s on for a second and we’ll be right
[Music] [Applause]
back all right everybody welcome back to the show Ron how are you doing buddy good morning Jeff
Casual Chat and Seasonal Changes
doing well can’t believe it’s October but then I’ll say the same thing when we’re in January
oh I know I know it’s just this year has flown by and for some instances I’m glad it’s gone by
fast but funny thing was all the Halloween stuff started coming out at the end of August and what’s
gonna happen the day after Halloween I don’t know I don’t know T the season Jingle Bells the
everything’s going to start to be in the markets by the very first week of November
like right after Halloween yeah that’s true yeah it’s already started my wife’s a big crafter which
we were shopping for fall stuff in like June and she started doing her Christmas stuff in pretty
much like July and August of this year our house first off she decorated this last weekend and it
looks like fall exploded in my house and pretty much the weekend of Thanksgiving Christmas will
explode in my house at that point so I hear you and the first pre Black Friday will be the Friday
right after Halloween of course for sale but then of course what is it like next week Amazon’s got
to do their like weird second prime day thing which and then that’s kicked off Target doing it
and Walmart doing it so yeah it’s just absolutely insane consume yeah so we’ll talk about that why
Fun Business Facts
don’t we kick off you said you got some uh fun facts about businesses I do I do and I got my
camera set up a little differently today so I thought the funniest thing was selfishness the
CEO of Whole Foods reduced his $1 salary to put together this fund of $100,000 relief for employ
employees enduring personal hardships not so bad okay all right hot dog versus hamburger McDonald’s
first food was the hot dog not the hamburger I did not know that not aware of that neither was I even
watched the founder and I don’t remember them even talking okay movie okay but it was interesting so
what’s the catch you could get free coffee and pastries at a coffee shop in Russia but you have
to pay for your time there okay actually finest in Russian format yeah Starbucks should do this
for people that sit in the the lobby there just charge them for yeah coffee you want but you’re
gonna have to pay while you’re here yuck the water doesn’t come from spring water it’s just
tap water tap water I think I’ve heard that before though yeah actually there’s about 30% of bottle
water everybody thinks oh there’s so much better and there’s yeah it’s just tap water vacation to
Sweden anyone any Americans who buy a Volvo can get a free holiday to swed en to test drive their
car all costs including airfare and shipment of the car are covered by the Volvo overseas delivery
program H I did not know that I didn’t know that I I have a good friend of mine who used to have
a Mercedes and he actually bought his Mercedes in Europe and then uh went over to pick it up
and drove it on the aabon and all that so it was like his big bucket list thing to be able to drive
his car on the aabon and then paid a fortune to ship it over to the state now I know of people
that have done that the problem is 98% or 95 to 98% of the car is the same in Europe as it is in
the US but they have to put on something to the exhaust system to for the emission standards in
the US yeah that they don’t have in Europe yeah which is like the greenest place on the
planet right yeah which makes me laugh that we’ve got more standards and or less green apparently
than they are definitely so Steve job secretary told him that he was late for work because that
she was late for work because her car wouldn’t start that very afternoon Jo jobs came back and
threw a new set of keys to a brand new Jaguar here don’t be late anymore I wish your employer would
do this now I there’s a lot of crazy J St Steve Jobs stories out there yeah that’s don’t forget
about that I think it would have been cheaper to just send a limo for her oh no [ __ ] yeah I
in the long run just doing Uber dude just tell you a little bit of about his eccentricities
oh he was a weirdo no it was funny because I had a the HR person that I worked with at at Schwab when
I moved to Austin she actually had worked in the headquarters at Apple for years as a recruiter and
HR person and there was this basically there were days where Steve didn’t want to be screwed with so
he could just come into the office but then there were other days that he wanted to be challenged
when he came into the office to he had to show his badge and stuff like that and you never knew what
day it was going to be and he would get pissed if you didn’t do what he wanted and of course
you didn’t know at that point so unfortunately a lot of Brilliant Minds are like that we got
a lot of them today yep all right next one got ice cream all employees of Ben and Jerry’s get
to take home three free pints of ice cream every single day probably so they could be the size of
Ben and Jerry I was going to say I mean Ben and Jerry are not exactly the most slender people
that I’ve ever seen but yeah we actually went to the factory when we were in in Vermont a few years
ago so it’s I heard that the way Crystal has kept you for what 30 years now at this point is that
she brings you home Chubby Hubby Ben and Jerry’s every night there we go yep that’s it that’s it
hey I was like a slender Reed when I met my wife and not so much anymore right we all as send to
the size that we want to be what can you yes there we go so benefits from the afterlife if a Google
employee dies their spouse will receive half their pay for 10 years as well as stock benefits and any
children will receive $1,000 a month until they turn 19 that’s actually very impressive I was not
aware of that at all yeah pretty slick take that mask off in response to China’s air pollution a
Chinese millionaire started selling cans of fresh air for 80 cents and made over 6 million in 10
months let me guess the company is called perier right Space Balls listen and I think that person
might have been a descendant of the one that sold the pet rock in the 70s I think so because he was
Chinese as well but yeah I just it’s space balls all over again Perry a all right and the last one
for this round Google’s Environmental Solutions rather than uh using mechanical mowers Google
employs 200 goats to naturally mow and fertilize campus lawn I wouldn’t want to be downwind of
that lawn yeah pretty much you don’t want to be downwind of Google headquarters no matter what
but wow yeah but hey whatever it’s much easier you they don’t complain they just you feed them
and they just keep doing their jobs it’s who knows all right so getting into a little bit
Economic Indicators and Market Analysis
of Economics so for the last year and a half we were talking about the 210 inversion when the
2-year treasury is above the 10-year treasury typically there’s a recession within 16 to 22
months we didn’t get one because it first inverted or last inverted in March of 2022 and this has
been the longest period of the inversion in the last couple of weeks in September 2024
the 10 finally went above the 2year meaning it rein verted and typically they look at recessions
happening within 3 to six months uh of that period of time so meaning when it initially inverts it’s
within 16 to 22 months because during that period of time typically it rein verts reined after that
period of time so this should be interesting that we see this over here now that this is when it
rein verts and you could see every other time when it has rein verted what has happened so we’ll have
to see I don’t know if it’s different this time or not but uh I thought this was interest point out
so we could keep an eye on this and obviously the S rule I know in the next podcast you’re
going to talk about jobs because we get a new job report tomorrow for September and uh that should
increase a little bit more with the Som roll and possibly affect the the reinversion I don’t know
if you had paid attention to that I hadn’t thought about that but we’ll go with it all right so this
was interesting I know we showed this once before twice before once in January and this was you and
Wall Street Price Targets
I with our price targets for the end of the year we came up with our bullish case our base case
and our be case and oh boy I don’t even know where we’re at today whatever Dart we were throwing at
a dartboard we missed the dartboard but I thought what was interesting is I believe it was about 3
four months ago May June time frame that uh a lot of Wall Street people raised their forecast then
would they raised it again so we’re basically around the 5700 5700 level of the S&P 500 Index
but I thought what was interesting was the one on the bottom JP Morgan now JP Morgan Marco col
who if you’ve ever listened to him he’s like the FED whisper that’s what they call him he’s very
articulate very well thought out in his market analysis and he had 4,200 on there and because
the market was just flying the first six to seven months of this year he took quote unquote a leave
of absence from JP Morgan JP Morgan just raised the price Target two three weeks ago sometime
in September to 4700 and I thought that was interesting because that’s a thousand points
less than where we are right now yeah so unless we get a collapse La for lack of a better way
of saying it what about a 17 18% yank back in the market to get the 4700 that’s unbelievable I just
like the way homeboy decided to take a leave of absence so he didn’t look like a complete idiot
by the end of the year he might have been nudged out for a little bit too that’s true it’s dude
we’ve been way too conservative all year it’s I was listening to Charles Payne the other day
and he was saying this is the greatest start to a first three quarters of a year on the S&P ever
in history at this point which makes me worry because it could be running well beyond I sit
there and I Benchmark against the S&P 500 and I look at our performance is lagging but I’m like
you know what I just can’t go all in at this point and this thing can reverse extremely fast
over a couple days at this point and get into a correction and I do not want to be left holding
the bag when it comes to that and for the most part the top 10 stocks peaked in July yeah they
have it’s been the other 490 that has broad it up broad base but the interesting thing is and I just
wrote about this in my newsletter this week going out to clients that I had two clients three days
apart I think I mentioned this in a prior podcast all said to me Ron if all the economic data has
been trending down the last 18 months why is the market going up it’s a good question and you gotta
chuckle because the answer is I don’t know and I’d say the main reason and this is what I wrote about
Employment and Market Trends
is employment even though employment is ticking up unemployment is ticking up it’s still at what they
quote unquote call full full employment levels over the last 100 years so as long as long as
people still have jobs as long as they’re spending and maybe they’re spending money that they don’t
have and credit cards and whatever the Market’s going to keep getting propped up yeah I would say
that and I would say the other part is there’s been a massive shift in 401ks and you and I have
been in the 401K business a long time a massive shift away from managed mutual funds because of
the cost which is negligible to index funds on the top three index funds in the country S&P 500 funds
represent almost 35 to 40% of the market and those are Buy and Hold investors that’s every single
week people’s paychecks are going in they’re going into those S&P 500 funds and they just
continue to buy more what happens in the short run and think about how many funds those top 10
stocks are in yeah yeah that’s the thing and that the reality of it is it’s going to continue to be
booed up until it isn’t and I think it will be the employment situation if we start to see
unemployment really get out of hand which isn’t necessarily just because of the economy it can be
the Port strike it can be you know I it’s funny I haven’t heard mention of the Boeing machinist
strike which has basically shut Boeing down and at least 45 other country is that still going on it
is I’ve hadn’t heard of it I was like you know what let me just look at it up and it’ll be in
this next uh thing that we go through on my piece of it because I just I was like I don’t even know
what’s going on and that thing’s been going since August and it’s affected everybody down the chain
all these companies are like laying off and furing employees because Boeing’s basically not working
right now unbelievable yeah so until next podcast that I’ll do the other 17 there’s some gems in
Upcoming Topics and Conclusion
too but I know in our next podcast the people stay tuned that was a nice tease by Jeff we’re
going to go through the the unemployment number and definitely talk about some of
the strikes going on with the unions absolutely folks thank you for joining us we’ve been trying
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